What websites are good for sport bike noobs?

Q. Just getting into motorcycles and I would like to learn about motorcycles. Specifically sport bikes. Does anyone have a suggestion for a good website and a good forum? I might be getting a Yamaha FZ6R or a Kawasaki Ninja (250R or 650R) if that helps at all.

Answer
I would like to learn about motorcycles

first things first... ring the insurance company & ask for a quote on a 600cc 4 cylinder bike...& a 250cc 2 cylinder bike...

Im guessing that's going to open your eyes a little... why is the 600 so much more than the 250..

because learners drop bikes & 600cc bikes get dropped at higher speed & cost more to fix.

SO... second hand 250cc NINJA or CBR250 Honda..

do the MSF Course.. buy your helmet gloves jacket..

& get insurance.. on the road & having fun for under $5000

& anyone that tells you they got bored on the 250... were not riding it properly..

250cc Ninja will top out at 100+MPH.. & do 15 second 1/4 miles..

great clip here of a 250 beating the big bikes..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=8WeggQKbszk

How do I convince my Dad to get a motorcycle?

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I have been dirt biking for over 6 years now (off road) with my Dad, yet he still thinks the risk of riding on the road is too high. The funny part is that my Mom seems to be okay with me riding, but there is no mutual agreement between both of my parents. I was thinking of getting a dual sport (Something like a KLX 250) because I have a lot of experience riding a dirt bike, so I don't want to ride something too different from what I'm used to. My Dad says that he doesn't doubt my driving skills, but instead he doubts other drivers on the road. He has a lot of people that he worked with who have been in motorcycle accidents and according to them, it is never their fault simply because motorcycles are a lot smaller, which in turn make them harder to see (Which I find strange because motorcycles are so loud and you would have to be deaf not to hear one coming your way) and are more prone to injury if you get in an accident because the only protection you get is your own gear (Helmet mainly). I have used a lot of good arguments for my side, including B.C. crash statistics such as this website: http://www.motorcyclelawyer.ca/html/stats.htm Which prove that most crashes were a result of unsafe driving by the motorcyclist, not other drivers. I am a responsible person and My Mom says that I have a good head on my shoulders and wouldn't do anything to get myself into trouble. But still no luck.
Also, don't you think that if motorcyclist are so prone to accidents/death, why is the insurance so much cheaper than a car? (Trust me I researched it and my sister works at an insurance company and she looked it up for me as well) and why are there 100 thousand people riding them in B.C.?

Any other suggestions?
I also took the 18 hour in class Valley Driving School Course, as well as 8 hours on the road with an instructor (In a car) so I have the knowledge


I'm 16 By the way.

Answer
First off, there is no "convincing" of parents. Their concern for your well being is going to be the driving factor in decisions of this nature. The fact that your mom doesn't care is rather amazing.

Second, for you, an on-road motorcycle isn't about your ability to ride said motorcycle. You have 2 things working against you. 1, You just simply don't have the road experience to know how to read drivers. It takes a lot of effort to get used to the rules of the road, how other drivers act, etc... that puts you at more risk as a new rider than someone who's 26 and has 10 years of driving under their belt. If you want to try and sway your dad a little, get a year or two of driving time without any accidents under your belt. At 16 years old, you'll likely live till you're 80-something... that's 60+ years from now... LOTS of time for riding motorcycles. There's no rush.

And 2, your dad is right about accidents, at least in relation to Trained, careful, riders. Looking back at my accidents, if I ignore those that were off-road and on the racetrack they fall very neatly into 2 categories. Single-vehicle, where I was firmly in the "learning" stages of riding and hit by someone else. I haven't had a single-vehicle accident since my 2nd year of riding (but had 8 or 9 in those 2 years, most were simple falls at, or near, 0-mph). In the following 20 years I have been hit by other vehicles 5 times, put in the hospital/surgery twice, and not one of them was my fault. In 4 of those cases, I was hit from behind by a distracted driver. I don't ride much on-road, and certainly not in the traffic I used to, since texting and 'smart' phones became popular. Drivers today are FAR worse than they were 5~7 years ago.



Keep bugging your dad, but don't expect to get anywhere with him. Instead, save your money and plan to buy one on your own when you hit 18. They might do what my parents did (I was forbidden from motorcycles too, bought one my first year at college), they told me that if I was mature enough to buy a motorcycle, I could handle paying for college, housing, groceries, insurance, etc... it was a very rough entry for me and I had to work 2 jobs to afford everything while STILL adding a ton of school loan debt, but I was riding a motorcycle. Hindsight, I would have waited till after college ~ motorcycling isn't very conducive to normal college activities since it's a solo-act. And girls, they don't really care about the motorcycle (and get annoyed by them) after the first week or two. The positive was Vastly smaller than the negative through those years, but I'm sorta stubborn.

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