PETER P
Considering purchasing an electric bike kit. My main objective is it must be inconspicuous(I don't think their legal in NY?) and be able to tackle a 3mile hill on a 10mile trip to where I could recharge it. I think the kit less conspisious with the battery pack consealed in a back pack over the rear fender or saddle bags?
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Personally I don't care much for motorised bicycles unless dealing with disabilities. A fit rider can usually ride about as quickly and for longer distances.
A kit is usually a better option since the motor can be removed with reasonable ease. And you can still ride the bike with it off. There are many different types of kits. Friction drives. Hub motors and one's that utilise the drive chain.
The friction drives tend to wear out your tyres quickly. The hub motors are a bit expensive and do not run efficiently at all speeds. The drive chain type are quite efficient and work through your gears so are more flexible. These ones are claimed to be greater than 95% efficient.
http://www.cyclone-usa.com/
I know of similar designs but I don't think they are available in the U.S.
Still they are better than a car.
Bicycle and Pedestrian laws in the State of New York
MOTORIZED BICYCLES
Section 2268. Motor-assisted vehicle. Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, a vehicle which is primarily designed to be propelled by human power shall not be entitled to registration as a limited use vehicle because of the addition of a motor. The commissioner shall determine whether any vehicle is primarily designed to be propelled by human power.
http://www.oginski-law.com/library/bicycle-and-pedestria.cfm
The commissioners discretion. Here is a proposed bill that seems to outline the guidelines .You would have to be unlucky to get booked if you follow these.
??????NOT PASSED YET ??????
Section 1 of the bill adds a new Section 102-c to the vehicle and traffic law, defining electric assisted bicycles as:
A bicycle with two or three wheels which has a saddle and fully operative pedals for human propulsion, and also has an electric motor.
However, the electric motor should not have a power output of more than one thousand watts, and should be incapable of propelling the device at a speed of more than twenty miles per hour on level ground. The electric motor should also be incapable of further increasing the speed of the device when human power alone is used to propel the device at or more than twenty miles per hour.
Section 2 adds an exception in section 125 of the vehicle and traffic law to the statutory definition of motor vehicle for electric assisted bicycles.
Section 3 adds a new section 1240 to the vehicle and traffic law, making the rules, regulations and provisions of the vehicle and traffic law applicable to bicycles applicable to electric assisted bicycles; makes the federal equipment and manufacturing requirements for bicycles or motor driven cycles applicable to electric assisted bicycles; and adds the following operational and safety requirements for electric assisted bicycles: electric motor disengagement criteria; all operators and passengers are required to wear bicycle helmets; and no-one under the age of 16 may operate or as a passenger on an electric assisted bicycle and establishes the civil fine and enforcement procedures for failure to wear a helmet.
Section 4 is the effective date.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws#New_York
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Personally I don't care much for motorised bicycles unless dealing with disabilities. A fit rider can usually ride about as quickly and for longer distances.
A kit is usually a better option since the motor can be removed with reasonable ease. And you can still ride the bike with it off. There are many different types of kits. Friction drives. Hub motors and one's that utilise the drive chain.
The friction drives tend to wear out your tyres quickly. The hub motors are a bit expensive and do not run efficiently at all speeds. The drive chain type are quite efficient and work through your gears so are more flexible. These ones are claimed to be greater than 95% efficient.
http://www.cyclone-usa.com/
I know of similar designs but I don't think they are available in the U.S.
Still they are better than a car.
Bicycle and Pedestrian laws in the State of New York
MOTORIZED BICYCLES
Section 2268. Motor-assisted vehicle. Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, a vehicle which is primarily designed to be propelled by human power shall not be entitled to registration as a limited use vehicle because of the addition of a motor. The commissioner shall determine whether any vehicle is primarily designed to be propelled by human power.
http://www.oginski-law.com/library/bicycle-and-pedestria.cfm
The commissioners discretion. Here is a proposed bill that seems to outline the guidelines .You would have to be unlucky to get booked if you follow these.
??????NOT PASSED YET ??????
Section 1 of the bill adds a new Section 102-c to the vehicle and traffic law, defining electric assisted bicycles as:
A bicycle with two or three wheels which has a saddle and fully operative pedals for human propulsion, and also has an electric motor.
However, the electric motor should not have a power output of more than one thousand watts, and should be incapable of propelling the device at a speed of more than twenty miles per hour on level ground. The electric motor should also be incapable of further increasing the speed of the device when human power alone is used to propel the device at or more than twenty miles per hour.
Section 2 adds an exception in section 125 of the vehicle and traffic law to the statutory definition of motor vehicle for electric assisted bicycles.
Section 3 adds a new section 1240 to the vehicle and traffic law, making the rules, regulations and provisions of the vehicle and traffic law applicable to bicycles applicable to electric assisted bicycles; makes the federal equipment and manufacturing requirements for bicycles or motor driven cycles applicable to electric assisted bicycles; and adds the following operational and safety requirements for electric assisted bicycles: electric motor disengagement criteria; all operators and passengers are required to wear bicycle helmets; and no-one under the age of 16 may operate or as a passenger on an electric assisted bicycle and establishes the civil fine and enforcement procedures for failure to wear a helmet.
Section 4 is the effective date.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws#New_York
How about deleting the other four times you asked this question?
is it dangerous to move in bicycle in new york ?
Emmanuel B
im french and in France move in bicycle in Paris by example is very dangerous, little bike path, driver disrespect cyclists... frequent serious accidents.
Thanks for your answers
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Recently there have been more bike path lanes added by the city commissioner of transportation. However as a fellow cyclist, I would recommend that you wear a helmet, observe signals, watch out for pedestrians, and mostly how traffic flows especially by buses and taxi's.
During the Spring and Summer months, Central Park in Manhattan and Prospect Park in Brooklyn is free from auto traffic during Saturday's and Sunday's as well.
Sunday, May 1st is the NYC five borough bike tour that you can register on line or at the tour. Also critical mass rides occur at the last weekend of the month as well.
Enjoy
Recently there have been more bike path lanes added by the city commissioner of transportation. However as a fellow cyclist, I would recommend that you wear a helmet, observe signals, watch out for pedestrians, and mostly how traffic flows especially by buses and taxi's.
During the Spring and Summer months, Central Park in Manhattan and Prospect Park in Brooklyn is free from auto traffic during Saturday's and Sunday's as well.
Sunday, May 1st is the NYC five borough bike tour that you can register on line or at the tour. Also critical mass rides occur at the last weekend of the month as well.
Enjoy
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