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Alex
im a 20 yr old male and ive never driven a motorcycle before but i would like to learn and buy one soon. I dont want anything expensive or too fancy like a harley. just like one of those cool sporty bikes. around how much would one cost? (used and new) (i think my friend has one thats a yamaha).
i live in chicago and go to school there and right now i take public trans. my parents are suppose to buy me a used car (around $5000) once i graduate from college but i was thinking of just buying a bike instead if it would be cheaper. i know i would only use it during the summer, fall, and some of spring but i would just take public trans during the winter. i hate driving/having a car in the winter months here anyway and i dont mind public trans too much since i could get around just about anywhere in the city with it. also im hesitant on a car b/c im hopefully going to be going to med school after i graduate and of course theres no guarantee i will stay in or near chicago for that. and even if i do, public trans would probably still be a better option for me convenience and cost wise.
i also think it would be able to save money on gas and i wouldnt have to worry about parking so much.
My other questions are is it hard to learn? and is it safe? (i would use a helmet of course)
p.s. please excuse my grammar (im typing in a rush) and my lack of knowledge when it comes to motorcycles
Answer
A yzf-r15 is good, in India and Australia and Colombia -- a nice little 150cc. Not available within 5000 miles of Chicago. In the U.S. "beginner" motorcycles are not available, you get to start with middleweights, 250cc motorcycles such as the Ninja 250R or new Honda CBR250R or the Suzuki TU250 (which I would like but is not available in California.) If you want a more comfortable cruiser, Honda Rebel Yamaha V-Star and the Suzuki GZ250 are easy to ride 250cc motorcycles.
250cc class are capable of Freeway. If you are willing of giving up speed, a SYM Symba a 100cc Honda Super Cub clone -- very to ride, as easy as a pedal bicycle. New 250cc class would be around $5K on the road, Symba about $3K, you can get a good 250cc class motorcycle for $2K.
A yzf-r15 is good, in India and Australia and Colombia -- a nice little 150cc. Not available within 5000 miles of Chicago. In the U.S. "beginner" motorcycles are not available, you get to start with middleweights, 250cc motorcycles such as the Ninja 250R or new Honda CBR250R or the Suzuki TU250 (which I would like but is not available in California.) If you want a more comfortable cruiser, Honda Rebel Yamaha V-Star and the Suzuki GZ250 are easy to ride 250cc motorcycles.
250cc class are capable of Freeway. If you are willing of giving up speed, a SYM Symba a 100cc Honda Super Cub clone -- very to ride, as easy as a pedal bicycle. New 250cc class would be around $5K on the road, Symba about $3K, you can get a good 250cc class motorcycle for $2K.
Is it possible to get cheap, safe and efficient private everyday travel?
Darkhoodne
I want to make spontaneous private journeys of varying long and short distances both safely and cheaply. Is this unrealistic? Must I bite the bullet and pay through the nose with a car or unaffordably-priced public transport, or put my life at risk when using a motorbike or a bicycle? Or is there another solution to this that I havenât considered?
---Long winded explanation---
This questionâs had me stumped for a couple of years. I'm unlucky enough to have friends and family that all live far away from me (but in the same country - I'm talking between 50 and 200 miles away), and also most nearby employment hubs are infuriatingly hard to get to when using public transport (not to mention the extortionate travel costs).
I live in the UK. Currently I go longer distances by train with a discount 16-25 railcard that will expire next year because I'll be too old to use it - Train prices are rising and are becoming unaffordable for frequent journeys (£30 return to go just 50 miles is stupid when I'm sure it cost £17 five years ago - I'd be paying that twice a month). Buses are slow and are also very expensive (hourly service, 2 and a half hours to go 16 miles and charging me £4 is unacceptable).
For shorter local distances I use my bicycle, but the UK's cyclist infrastructure is terrible (or non-existent) so I'm forced to use the roads, putting myself in danger from incompetent/disrespectful motorists (I've lost count of the near-misses - They're becoming more frequent with every passing year) despite following the rules of the road, learning extra tips on road safety and making myself visible from space. Putting my life at risk isn't something I'm willing to do any more.
I'd like to get a car but fuel prices are rising through the roof and are set to rise further. Electric cars don't have the range on them to do what I'd want them to do, plus the infrastructure for them isn't really in place yet. "Efficient" petrol, diesel and hybrid/electric models on the market now are extortionately priced or are still expensive to run and maintain anyway.
There are cars on the horizon that will be more affordable (or at least worth buying at high prices considering the lifetime fuel savings) and do what I'd want (like the Gordon Murray T.25), but they won't be available for a long while, and only IF they're successful.
Iâve considered buying a motorbike or a scooter, but theyâre not safe â Even with the ability to keep up with traffic Iâll still be subjected to idiots who canât drive, with only flimsy armour and a silly helmet to protect me. Transporting goods is also an issue â You can strap nearly anything to a bicycle if you know how, but you arenât allowed to do that with a motorbike.
Iâve even considered importing one of those auto rickshaw TukTuk things from India â At least Iâll be visible to other road users in one, but they seem to be a bit primitive. While safer than both a motorbike and a bicycle, they still have safety issues, and go about half the speed of a scooter for roughly the same fuel efficiency.
Are there any other options that I havenât considered? Many thanks if you read this far.
Answer
I am sure that you have heard the reference to looking at the world with the perspective of someone for whom a glass is always 1/2 empty. Life is full of compromises. You are asking for a mode of transportation that has no compromises.
We might refine that a bit by saying that you are looking for no compromises that you are unwilling to make... but if you are are willing to make compromises then perhaps they are not much of a stretch. You are willing to pay, but you want to pay yesterday's prices. There is something wrong with every form of transportation that you suggest. Very little is based upon statistics or facts but instead upon perception and supposition.
With these conditions it may be impossible to suggest an acceptable alternative. I might suggest instead that you examine instead the decision making process and do a bit more research in the outer world.
Best of luck to you, I hope you find what you need.
I am sure that you have heard the reference to looking at the world with the perspective of someone for whom a glass is always 1/2 empty. Life is full of compromises. You are asking for a mode of transportation that has no compromises.
We might refine that a bit by saying that you are looking for no compromises that you are unwilling to make... but if you are are willing to make compromises then perhaps they are not much of a stretch. You are willing to pay, but you want to pay yesterday's prices. There is something wrong with every form of transportation that you suggest. Very little is based upon statistics or facts but instead upon perception and supposition.
With these conditions it may be impossible to suggest an acceptable alternative. I might suggest instead that you examine instead the decision making process and do a bit more research in the outer world.
Best of luck to you, I hope you find what you need.
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