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kyle l
i have never rode one before so i need to learn first of course. what is the best way for me to prepare myself to ride a fast street bike? im looking to get a 600cc bike for my first one such as a r6 or cbr600. any advice will be apreciated. thnx.
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I do agree with what others have said - starting out on a newer 600 isn't the best of ideas. Everybody recommends starting out on a 250 or a 500, and I agree. Are you going to listen to us? Probably not. But instead of trying to scare you away and not offering any actual advice, this is what you need to know the most - SELF CONTROL.
People tend to generalize the 500cc and smaller machines as these safe little bikes that you aren't going to have any problems with. Let's face facts. While a 600 can get you into trouble quicker, i.e. obtain faster speeds, truth is if you don't have respect for the throttle and don't ride within your abilities, you're going to kill yourself just as easily on a 250 compared to a 600.
First and foremost take a MSF course. Even if you teach yourself to ride, take it anyway. You will learn a lot no matter what and improve your riding skills.
Secondly, don't buy new. There is a very likely chance you will drop your bike during the first year of riding. Get something that is reliable, but if it doesn't look 100% perfect suck up your ego and get over it. You go and drop a brand new R6 you'll be crying like a girl. Bikes retain their value well, so if you trade up the following year you won't be out much money. Even if you are, it will be well worth it for that year of riding you did. You can find used CBRs, FZRs, Gixxers and Ninjas for a good price. The biggest factor should be the comfort of the bike. If the controls aren't in places you can easily get to, then it's not the bike for you.
If you don't have a friend that can help teach you, then this is about all the advice I can offer (going by the way MSF will teach you). Start off walking the bike by standing beside it (on the left hand side). Get used to the weight and being able to keep the bike upright. Sit on the bike with the stand down and play with the controls. Get used to where everything is at. Next, start out going in a straight line only in first gear. Don't even try to start shifting yet. Go back and forth on an empty street or parking lot several times until you feel ok with the throttle. 1st gear can be a little herky-jerky. If you're feeling ok, then try getting it up into 2nd gear. Focus on shifting smoothly. Repeat and repeat until you are good at. Then try going up to the 3rd.
Before you try and make your way up to beyond 3rd gear, start focusing on emergency braking. Get some speed up (like 20 mph) then pick a spot where you want to try and stop. Brake smoothly and under control. It's easy to lock the rear tire up if you mash the pedal down and that's a big no-no. Practice and practice and practice this. Don't grab a ton of brake on the first try. Just keep doing it until you get better. Then you can try doing some basic swerves, but don't EVER swerve and brake at the same time.
I taught myself on my FZR, so it's not impossible. Looking back, yeah, I should have started out on a 500 or smaller but it was all I could afford at the time. The biggest thing to keeping you safe is self control. If you don't have any, then you shouldn't be on the road anyway to be honest. Invest in some gear as well - helmet, gloves, jacket, etc. Check out newenough.com for some good deals.
Good luck.
I do agree with what others have said - starting out on a newer 600 isn't the best of ideas. Everybody recommends starting out on a 250 or a 500, and I agree. Are you going to listen to us? Probably not. But instead of trying to scare you away and not offering any actual advice, this is what you need to know the most - SELF CONTROL.
People tend to generalize the 500cc and smaller machines as these safe little bikes that you aren't going to have any problems with. Let's face facts. While a 600 can get you into trouble quicker, i.e. obtain faster speeds, truth is if you don't have respect for the throttle and don't ride within your abilities, you're going to kill yourself just as easily on a 250 compared to a 600.
First and foremost take a MSF course. Even if you teach yourself to ride, take it anyway. You will learn a lot no matter what and improve your riding skills.
Secondly, don't buy new. There is a very likely chance you will drop your bike during the first year of riding. Get something that is reliable, but if it doesn't look 100% perfect suck up your ego and get over it. You go and drop a brand new R6 you'll be crying like a girl. Bikes retain their value well, so if you trade up the following year you won't be out much money. Even if you are, it will be well worth it for that year of riding you did. You can find used CBRs, FZRs, Gixxers and Ninjas for a good price. The biggest factor should be the comfort of the bike. If the controls aren't in places you can easily get to, then it's not the bike for you.
If you don't have a friend that can help teach you, then this is about all the advice I can offer (going by the way MSF will teach you). Start off walking the bike by standing beside it (on the left hand side). Get used to the weight and being able to keep the bike upright. Sit on the bike with the stand down and play with the controls. Get used to where everything is at. Next, start out going in a straight line only in first gear. Don't even try to start shifting yet. Go back and forth on an empty street or parking lot several times until you feel ok with the throttle. 1st gear can be a little herky-jerky. If you're feeling ok, then try getting it up into 2nd gear. Focus on shifting smoothly. Repeat and repeat until you are good at. Then try going up to the 3rd.
Before you try and make your way up to beyond 3rd gear, start focusing on emergency braking. Get some speed up (like 20 mph) then pick a spot where you want to try and stop. Brake smoothly and under control. It's easy to lock the rear tire up if you mash the pedal down and that's a big no-no. Practice and practice and practice this. Don't grab a ton of brake on the first try. Just keep doing it until you get better. Then you can try doing some basic swerves, but don't EVER swerve and brake at the same time.
I taught myself on my FZR, so it's not impossible. Looking back, yeah, I should have started out on a 500 or smaller but it was all I could afford at the time. The biggest thing to keeping you safe is self control. If you don't have any, then you shouldn't be on the road anyway to be honest. Invest in some gear as well - helmet, gloves, jacket, etc. Check out newenough.com for some good deals.
Good luck.
Beginner Motorcycle Rider 15 yrs old 5'8" getting license soon what bike?
J.R.
What bike should i get i might be gettin a Yamaha FZ-6, i want a R-6. theyre pretty much the same just different aero pakages. What bike should i get i want the crotch rocket look, sound. i dont really care bout speed as of right now because im just startin out. Pleaze help. thnx.
Answer
My advice is as follows: don't even look at bikes 'til you're 18.
First off, you really should have a few years and a few thousand miles under your belt as a licensed driver so you can get used to the idiots on the road. A bike isn't like a car: someone else screws up and there won't be a fender-bender, you'll be dead. Bikes are dangerous because there is no metal cage around you, there are no airbags, and there is no seat belt, the only protection you'll have is a helmet and any training and experience.
Second, the insurance will be insane no matter what bike you end up with, if you can even get insurance at all.
When you have a few years of experience, take a MSF course. I highly reccomend the HD "Rider's Edge" MSF cert courses seeing as they have smaller class sizes and newer bikes. You'll pay about $100-300 or so, but it'll be worth every penny. Once you complete your course and get your license, it'll be time for your first bike. Do not, I repeat, do NOT get a super sport. Anything geared for the track and/or an engine over 600cc is pretty much a death sentence to an inexperienced rider. They are great bikes and they'll do whatever you tell them, even of you didn't mean it. Blip the throttle too much and they'll wheel stand. Grab a hand full of brake lever and expect an endo.
Start out with something smaller, say, in the 250-500 range. Something with 50whp or less. Now, this won't prohibit you from getting a sport bike or a sport tourer - something with a full fairing and aggressive looks without the aggressive control and power. The good beginner sports include:
Kawasaki Ninja 250R/ ZZR250
Kawasaki Ninja 500R
Suzuki GS500E/GS500F
Buell Blast 500
and if they are legal in your state
Aprilia RS50 and RS125
I personally started on the Ninja 250R and I absolutely love the bike. I still have it even, though most bikers upgrade within a year.
edit: in response to the post below mine.
The AMA (as in AMA Superbike), the MotoGP league, and MSF recommend a small displacement first bike. AMA goes so far as to specify the Buell Blast and Ninja 250. MotoGP practically requires small displacement experience.
My advice is as follows: don't even look at bikes 'til you're 18.
First off, you really should have a few years and a few thousand miles under your belt as a licensed driver so you can get used to the idiots on the road. A bike isn't like a car: someone else screws up and there won't be a fender-bender, you'll be dead. Bikes are dangerous because there is no metal cage around you, there are no airbags, and there is no seat belt, the only protection you'll have is a helmet and any training and experience.
Second, the insurance will be insane no matter what bike you end up with, if you can even get insurance at all.
When you have a few years of experience, take a MSF course. I highly reccomend the HD "Rider's Edge" MSF cert courses seeing as they have smaller class sizes and newer bikes. You'll pay about $100-300 or so, but it'll be worth every penny. Once you complete your course and get your license, it'll be time for your first bike. Do not, I repeat, do NOT get a super sport. Anything geared for the track and/or an engine over 600cc is pretty much a death sentence to an inexperienced rider. They are great bikes and they'll do whatever you tell them, even of you didn't mean it. Blip the throttle too much and they'll wheel stand. Grab a hand full of brake lever and expect an endo.
Start out with something smaller, say, in the 250-500 range. Something with 50whp or less. Now, this won't prohibit you from getting a sport bike or a sport tourer - something with a full fairing and aggressive looks without the aggressive control and power. The good beginner sports include:
Kawasaki Ninja 250R/ ZZR250
Kawasaki Ninja 500R
Suzuki GS500E/GS500F
Buell Blast 500
and if they are legal in your state
Aprilia RS50 and RS125
I personally started on the Ninja 250R and I absolutely love the bike. I still have it even, though most bikers upgrade within a year.
edit: in response to the post below mine.
The AMA (as in AMA Superbike), the MotoGP league, and MSF recommend a small displacement first bike. AMA goes so far as to specify the Buell Blast and Ninja 250. MotoGP practically requires small displacement experience.
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